Our Double Date with Misters A and B - Epilogue

So Mr. A didn’t show and Mr. B wouldn’t look at Wife.  In fact, Wife tried to give him a sly smile or the look away then back again move, but that’s kind of hard when he won’t look at you.  We waited a few days to hear from him.  I think he should have sent a short note saying he had a good time (even if he didn’t) and thanked us for meeting him.  It’s the gentlemanly thing to do.  I certainly would have.  If he was no longer interested he could have politely added that too.  We sent him a note to say we had a good time, but things seemed a bit off.  We didn’t slam the door, but it was definitely closing.  If he was interested, he needed to reply that he had a great time and had really hoped to see more of us (or Wife).  Instead he politely replied that Wife didn’t seem interested in him and wished us well.  That closed the door.

We decided that we want someone that is more aggressive.  Mr.s Y and B have been tame.  Even SMT was pretty tame, but he did give Wife some complements and had his hands on her.  (Ah the memories of that night.  Were a white couple, obviously married, in a restaurant with a young black stud sitting next to and feeling up my wife. :-)  I would have liked to hear some of the conversations at other tables or in the kitchen.) And she reminded me that his texts were pretty hot!  For our first time, that was the perfect mix of being non-threatening and lustful.  Next time though, Wife wants more.  She wants to know that he is hot for her, that he wants her and can’t wait to fuck her.

We wrote Mr. A an email to see if there was some misunderstanding.  He says he was there!  There is another restaurant with the same name about 30 miles away, but it is in another city.  We had agreed on this one.  It is possible he had the wrong day or time, or even was at the other one.  We didn’t push it.  If it was a true miscommunication, then OK we’ll give him another try.  We said that we need to exchange phone numbers so this won’t happen again (and so he and Wife can text each other).  The message was sent yesterday, and Mr. A has demonstrated that he only checks AFF every 3 or 4 days.  So it’s no surprise that we haven’t heard from him.  We’ll get his number and check him out.  If we don’t have any more surprises or red flags, we’ll meet him again.  This time though we probably won’t do dinner.  We need a venue where we can say thanks, but no thanks and leave at any time.  What do you think are some activities that would be appropriate?  Send me an email or leave a comment.

So that’s a twist I didn’t see coming.  Mr. B is out and Mr. A is back in (sort of).  Interesting.

The real interesting part starts with Mr. C.  He has definitely been more aggressive.  His emails have been very suggestive.  That scared Wife off for a bit, but not enough to completely turn her away.  Now suddenly he seems more suitable.

And there is a Mr. D.  He’s is a bit older than us, and we just got his number.  Wife will text with him and we plan to meet him.  However we are still very busy.  Any meetings will have to wait at least two weeks.

Plus there are several others we are just starting to get to know.  It’s starting to seem this might take longer than I thought.  We’ll see.  We’re enjoying the ride.

Our Double Date with Misters A and B - Part 3

We do have Mr. B’s phone number and the name on the caller ID matches what he told us several weeks ago.  We feel much more confident that he will show.  He's the first man we've met from AM.

We make our way into the third eating establishment of the evening.  Wife orders a Mich Ultra and I get a Shock Top.  It comes out with an orange slice which surprisingly goes well with the flavor.  After a few minutes I see a guy that vaguely resembles Mr. B’s photo.  I ask wife if she thinks that’s him, and she’s not 100% sure.  At first he seems to be looking around, but then he picks a spot at the bar.  We’re not sure it’s him.  After a minute though, he’s looking around again and I give him a head nod.

We are seated at a square table and he sits next to Wife, opposite of me.  He turns out to be a nice guy, which we expected from his emails.  He has met a few couples before and was obviously comfortable with the situation.  Our conversation covers many different topics, but rarely touches on anything sexual.  I try not to take control of the conversation so that he doesn’t feel overwhelmed by my presence.  There is a band and at times it is quite loud.  Due to my position, I sometimes have trouble hearing the conversation between him and Wife, and even they had to lean together to hear.  I left them alone a couple of times, the longest for about 10 minutes to be sure to give him a chance to get to know Wife.  As the night gets older, I suggest that we take a walk in a nearby park.  Everyone thought that was a good idea.  I thought Mr. B might make a move like trying to hold my wife’s hand.  At times I try to walk a little ways away from them so they can get close, but it never seems to happen.  After about 30 minutes, we decide to call it a night.  He hugs Wife and we head back to our cars.

On the way, I ask Wife what she thinks.  She likes him, he was nice, but something was missing.  Later, she told me that she tried to catch his eye but he would never look at her.  He was not aggressive at all.  We agreed that we need someone with more lustful desire.  Someone that will let Wife know that she is hot and he wants her.  Someone like Mr, C.

Our Double Date with Misters A and B - Part 2

As we wait for Mr. A, we go over the menu.  As I said before, we’re not shy of sushi, but we are not adventurous (OK, in some areas we obviously are, but not with raw fish).  I pick a couple of new things we might try.  Hopefully, Mr. A will be able to give us some guidance.

We talk about our feelings and expectations for the night and the nights to come.  Wife repeats that with each guy that she’s comfortable with, she wants to try him out in bed before she picks the one or two that will be her regulars.  Currently there are five guys that we have considered meeting.  Here is my wife nonchalantly discussing having sex with 5 guys she has never met over the next month or so.  :-)

In just a few minutes, the door opens and in walks … a couple.  Not Mr. A.  We have a good view of the door and every time someone comes in we see it’s not him.  Pretty quickly a half hour goes by and we know we’ve been stood up.  Our waitress answers our questions on the menu and helps us choose.  We order a Scallop Dynamite Roll and Hibachi Scallops. Wife enjoys her flavored sake and I have another beer.

We had a great meal and good conversation.  The food was delicious.  We made good choices.  While we were disappointed that Mr. A didn’t show, it certainly did not dampen our spirits.  We decided that we would use the time before we meet Mr. B to go elsewhere for dessert.

Our choice for dessert is TGI Fridays.  We share the Brownie Obsession and watch the people.  It was fun and the dessert was terrific.

We leave in time to get to the place where we will (hopefully) meet Mr. B.

Our Double Date with Misters A and B - Part 1

Saturday, I planned to leave work no later than one and a half hours before the meeting time with Mr. A for dinner.  As the day presses on, it becomes apparent that we won’t be done at work.  I decide that I can leave as late a 1 hour before and still get home, cleaned up and to the restaurant.  I coordinate my departure with a coworker and let Wife know.  As the clock winds down to the 1 hour mark, so does our task.  We are on track to finish a bit early and I start to feel comfortable.  Well, we hit a bit of a snag and things take a bit longer, but we finish with exactly 1 hour to go.  I plan to make my exit.  However, our lead wants to do a quick wrap up and discuss our next steps.  OK, that should take five minutes.  Except today it drags on and on.  I find myself trying to quietly escape as I hand my coworker a note with my cell number and ask him to call me to let me know if we are working on Sunday.  I dash out of the building to my car.

This normally wouldn’t be a problem.  We would just call our dinner acquaintance, and let them know we were running late.  However, Mr. A did not respond back to our last email in which we requested his phone number.  Red flag?  You bet, but not out of character for Mr. A.  Remember that he has always taken a bit of time to read his email.  So there is a possibility that he didn't get it.

So here I am, rushing to get home and to get ready for our dinner date, when we have some doubt that Mr. A will even show up.  I have Wife pick out an outfit and lay it out for me.  I run in, head straight to the bedroom, strip down, clean up, and get dressed.  We’re out the door only a couple minutes late.  We will probably make it there on time.

On the way we review a printout of Mr. A’s AFF profile.  I would have liked to have time to review our email exchanges, but of course there was no time for that.  We reviewed the questions we had previously written to ask at this meeting and added a few more.  We are all set to pull into the parking lot right on time.  Then we had one more set back.

We had never been to this restaurant before, but knew where it was.  Or so we thought.  We pulled into the parking lot of the shopping center, and the restaurant wasn’t there.  We quickly figured out where it was and got there with only a short delay.  We were less than five minutes late.

We walk in and look around.  No single men looking anxious.  We ask for a table for three.  The place is small and not crowded at all.  They bring out warm towels and we order drinks.  I have a beer and Wife orders the 4 shot sampler of flavored sake.  We’re glad that we made it (close enough to) on time and didn’t make him wait.

We talk about our upcoming meeting.  The nervousness of the last two first meetings is not there.  We’re getting to be veterans at this.  I guess once you meet a young black man (oh, didn’t I tell you Mr. Z was black?) in public where everyone knows something sexual is going on between him and Wife, you know you can handle any of these meetings.

So now we wait.

Intro to Mr. B

We met Mr. B on AM.  Just a few days before we went on our trip, he sent Wife a wink and a private showcase key.  She liked what she saw and read.  He’s tall, fit, and a couple years younger than us.  He said he likes to kiss a woman’s neck, fingers, breasts, all over; he’s very oral. Wife sent him back a wink and her private showcase key.  He does live over an hour away, so meetings will have to be planned.

After he and Wife started emailing each other, we found out that he immensely enjoys being with a married couple.  He’s tried it a few times and loves it.  It’s good to know that he will be comfortable with this situation. 

Anyway, he’s been pretty good at responding to emails in a day or so, but when Wife texted him, he was very slow to respond.  Maybe he doesn’t text.  That’s OK.

We meet him tonight for drinks after we meet Mr. A.  I hope 3 hrs is enough time to have dinner and get to the second place which is about 20 minutes away.  That shouldn’t be a problem, but you never know.  We’ll use the time in between to discuss our impressions of Mr. A, and what we need to discuss with Mr. B.  Twenty minutes may not be enough time for that.

I’ll let you know how it goes from both our “dates” soon, but remember I don’t think anything real interesting is going to happen.  Then again, if she clicks with one of these guys, maybe something more interesting than sex will happen.  Maybe she’ll make that special connection that will last a long time.

Intro to Mr. A

Let me tell you a little about Mr. A.  We met him on AFF.  He saw our ad and wrote to us about a month ago, and we have been exchanging emails and pictures since.  He is Wife’s favorite of all the men we have met.  He is a couple years older than us and seems like a nice guy.  We have had a bit of difficulty communicating with him.  He seems to prefer to use AFF rather than the email address he gave us, and he only checks his AFF account every few days.  (We also have had some trouble with AFF losing or censoring mail, but that is for another post.)  Otherwise he seems very eager to meet us.

He is divorced and lives fairly close, close enough for Wife to stop in for a quicky when she wants. :-)  He’s not very tall, but he is taller than Wife, handsome (not like me of course) and he says he has an athletic build.  Interestingly, he is the only man not include a photo of his cock, and now that I realize this, I’m wondering how big (or small) it is.  I don’t know if Wife has noticed this yet nor what she thinks about it.

We are meeting him for dinner on Saturday.  We suggested the date and time and he suggested the place.  He chose a nice Japanese place that is known for its sushi, but we’ve never been there.  We like sushi but are a bit tame.  We tend to stick with the California roll with the occasional spicy shrimp or blue crab roll and even more rarely a Hawaiian roll.  Hopefully he has eaten here often and his superior knowledge will give him some confidence that will carry over into seducing my wife.

We don’t plan on anything happening at this first meeting.  It’s just a chance to get to know each other.  We will have dinner and a drink or two to see how we hit it off.

Besides, we have to meet Mr. B for drinks just 3 hours after we meet Mr. A.  :-)

Ketchup - May 19, 2009

Has it really been a week since my last post? I apologize.

I had planned on writing a post with an AFF review and I know you want to know what's going on since we met STM. Well not much in terms of Wife finding a lover. Plenty in the rest of our lives. This brings up a concern that I knew was coming. Our lives have gotten much busier and will be for several months. I will not have as much time to devote to this blog as I have in the past. I will try to post at least once a week, but I fear that even that is unrealistic. We have set a priority on making some time available to continue to find Wife a lover, but that is not as much as we had in the past.

All I can say is that I will try to post at least once a week with at least a short status.

So, for the last few weeks we have been emailing with 4 guys every few days. These are the top 4 that Wife has picked from the many we have had contact with. We will be meeting 2 of them Saturday night, one for dinner and one 3 hours later for drinks. I know, 2 in one night! However, these will be PG-13 rated meetings as Wife wants to take it slow. Wife has decided, though, she will meet and, if she is still interested, have sex with all 4 guys before she makes her choice of a long term lover.

I’ll let you know what happens.

Impressions of Ashley

So it’s been three weeks since we signed up for 3 online hookup services, and two weeks since I wrote my first impressions of them.  We’ve been getting a lot more action from these, well at least from Ashley Madison and Adult Friend Finder.  The other one is small and there are not many members in our area.

Here are my updated impressions of AM. 

First, what I like:
•    The mailbox is great.  When you log on, you are taken to your mailbox, and it shows all your contact messages with other members (messages, winks, add to favorites, private photo keys).  I like that it is all in one place.  So checking for any updates is easy.
•    Open an email and there is a link to show message history for last 10 messages or 30 days with that member
•    Helpful help
•    And good getting started page - Helpful Tips for Using the Ashley Madison System.  It’s hard to find though.  I didn’t find it until doing research for this post.  Go to the bottom of any profile, including your own, and click on “about member feedback [?]”.  Check out their fun lists of acronyms and emotions.  I’m sure you’ll find a few new ones.
•    Lists for favorites, keys sent, and block profiles – all available on the “Lists” tab
•    Feedback checkboxes at bottom of profiles
•    Easy navigation

Plenty of free services:
•    Anyone can send a wink
•    Including a wink that says sorry I’m not interested
•    Anyone can view profiles, many don’t have public photos, most of those have private photos, anyone can request a private photo showcase key and anyone can send their showcase key for free
•    Full function search
•    Favorites list
•    Email By name who has sent you a message
•    Emails showing a summary of how many members have put you on their favorites list, winks, showcase keys and messages you’ve received in the last 24 hours – but not by name
•    Emails showing new members in your area

Additional services available for a fee:
•    As of this writing, credits cost between $.25 and $.50 each, depending on how many you buy at one time, and never expire.
•    Only costs to send a message to a member for the first time (5 credits).  After that the two members can reply all they want for free.  Messages can contain alternate contact info such as email addresses and phone numbers. 
•    Also costs to initiate instant messaging. (30 credits for 30 minutes, 50 credits for 60 minutes, with some limited methods to save minutes)
•    Collect messages (5 credits for the receiving (male) member, free for the sending member)
•    Priority mail (additional 5 credits)
•    Gifting (20 to 50 credits for gifts) Why, you ask.  I don’t know.  Why would anyone want an electronic necklace?

What I don’t like:
•    Fewer members in area.  They seem to think that anyone in my state is in my area.  I guess if you live in Rhode Island, that works out well, but in larger states these “members in your area” are more often than not, hundreds of miles away.
•    Chat box takes up 1/3 of the screen, across the top always.  We don’t use the chat, because it could be me or Wife that happens to be logged in, and that wouldn’t be fair to a potential suitor.  So this is wasted space for us, but even if you use it, it takes up too much space.
•    No couples selection.  You can’t register as a couple nor can you state you are interested in anything but a male or female (but not both).

What I don’t know:
•    Apparently you can transfer credits to other accounts (for a 25 credit fee plus the number of credits you transfer).  You can select the account number to receive them, and the number of credits. (Hey, give me credits rather than a fake necklace, moron.)  I'm not sure how this really works.  There doesn't seem to be much documentation on it.

Summary:
I like the way the Ashley Madison site is laid out.  It is easy to use and the impression I got is they really want to help people connect.  Their site reflects that philosophy. Sure, they want to make money but they let you know in the help section exactly which services are complementary and which will require credits (and how many credits).  Another page, conveniently labeled “Buy Credits”, shows the price for packages of credits.

While it was a little slow at first, which we accredited to the fact that I knew and approved of Wife’s activities on AM, it soon picked up.  The more likely reason is that there are fewer people on AM and therefore fewer people in your immediate area.  We have been conversing with 4 guys on AM and have exchanged winks (including several (5) no thank yous) with many more.  I’ll post more about them soon.

I definitely recommend Ashley Madison for people that are looking for long term relationships.  If you want to hook up tonight, try somewhere else (like sending me an email, lol).

Meeting Mr. Z - Epilogue

Friday we talk about the events of the previous night often.  There are lots of double entendres and we have fun with it.  We are both very happy.

Saturday, we go site seeing around the city.  I try to not discuss STM or this lifestyle much.  This is a romantic weekend away for us and we use the time to connect like any other married couple.  (Although we do occasionally check our email and AFF and AM accounts.)  We have a great time and serendipity smiles on us Sunday.  Through a lucky break, we get to extend our vacation a few more hours before we head home.  We take advantage of our luck and go to a nearby city and have a good time and a great late lunch.

This week we’ve been exchanging emails with several guys from AFF and AM and I’ll have to tell you about the potential new Mr.s sometime.

Meeting Mr. Z Part 4

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Meeting Mr. Z Part 3

He comes in to the lobby a couple minutes later.  Turns out his car didn’t fit the area and a guy sitting in his car in a hotel parking lot is suspicious.  I guess there have been some drug and prostitute activity in the area recently.

As we enter the elevator, another hotel guest walks up and gets in with us.  Turns out he is going to the same floor as us.  We leave the elevator first and make our way to our room.  Wife has trouble opening the door for a moment, and guess where our elevator friend is staying.  Right next door.  Our neighbor makes his way into his room just a foot from us as we struggle to get into ours.

Once inside, STM gets to business quickly.   Kissing her neck, his tongue on her neck.  She is surprised, but loving it.  He has her shirt off quickly.  So quickly I didn’t even see it come off.  She is wearing a beautiful black bra camisole.   He’s kissing and licking my wife’s neck, shoulders, breasts.  It’s beautiful.  She loves it.  She is so happy.

He undresses her.  And SHE LETS him!  She is down to her camisole and boy leg panties.  The two look so beautiful together.  His hands are all over her.  She looks at me and I mouth “Are you OK”.  Her smile tells me she is more than OK.  She asks if I’m OK and my smile tells her the same.  STM spends several minutes touching and kissing her body.

Next he takes her panties off and puts his tongue in.  He licks her for a long time.  Wife’s face shows her joy as he eats her.

Finally he undresses, and wants his cock sucked.  Wife doesn’t do that.  He’s disappointed.  She strokes him and gets him hard.  He sucks her tits while she continues to stroke him.  Later I realize this is the first time I've seen an erect cock, other than mine, in person.  The fact that it's in my wife's hand makes it much better than any I've seen in magazines, videos or the computer.  But I don't get to see it for long.

STM puts on a Magnum condom on and slides it in.  OMG he’s fucking her.  She is loving it!  She looks so happy.  He keeps it up for several minutes.

Later he has her turn over and switches to doggy style.  Her knees are on the ground and her chest and head are on the couch.  He goes almost another 10 minutes.

At some point I join in, kissing her and sucking her nipples.  Now he is eating her again and continues for a long time.  He asks if I want to jump in and get her wet.  I eat her and slide my fingers inside her.  Inside where his cock was just fucking her.  Another man fucking my wife and now I’m eating her pussy.

After he takes a break, he puts on another condom and fucks her a second time.  This one takes him a long time.  How long, I don’t really know, but it seems like 20 to 30 minutes.  Also, he is not easy on her.  He wasn’t exactly gentle the last time, but this time he pounds away at her, making the distinctive slap, slap, slap sounds.  He’s got her legs up in the air so he can go as deep as possible.  It’s making her moan on each thrust.  I wonder what our neighbor is thinking :).

While they fuck, I’m kissing her as her whole body is rocked over and over again.  She tells me she’s had just about all that she can handle.  She’s had close to 2 hours of bliss.  He finally finishes, and at this point we’re done and thank him.  He dresses and goes.

We wonder if the cops pick him up again.

Meeting Mr. Z Part 2

We head out to the restaurant and arrive a few minutes after 6.  We never were able to confirm with Mr. Z the new time.  He didn’t have his cell phone and his work number went to voice mail.  So we don’t know if he will be there when we get there or not until after 8.  He chose today to sell his phone!  We choose a booth in the bar area.

I sat on one side of the booth and Wife sat on the other.  We ordered a couple of beers and some chips and salsa as we waited.  It was obvious that we were married, and we had told the host and the waitress that we were meeting a man but didn’t know when he would arrive.  At one point a guy in a basketball uniform comes in.  I ask Wife if she wants to trade up.  :)

Mr. Z shows up about 6:50 and the first thing we both notice is that he is a smoker :(.  We were very clear that we were not interested in a smoker.  However, he’s a fun guy and the smoky aroma is light and soon fades.  We enjoyed a pleasant meal and a couple of drinks.  The conversation was light and fun.  We talked about where he has lived.  He grew up in Atlanta.  Where should we go if we visit, we asked.  I don’t know; go to parties; that’s where you will have fun, he said.

He said he was thinking about moving to another city a couple of hours from here.  He’s just bored where he lives now.  Not a lot going on.  We all discussed the pros and cons of various cities in the area.

We sat in the booth; me on one side and Wife and Mr. Z on the other.  He tells her how attractive she is.  Several times his hands made there way to my wife’s knee, then up a little to the inner thigh.  Not too far up, but far enough.

The conversation turned to tonight; what might happen when we get back to the hotel.  He had previously told Wife that he could stay all night if that’s what we wanted.  That sounded like fun, but we’d have to wait and see.  We talked about going to the jacuzzi either before or during a break.  Mr. Z didn’t bring a suit, claiming we didn’t tell him to (although later I checked the text messages and sure enough we did and he responded OK).

He’s tall, dark and hold on, he can only handle one adjective at a time.  Don’t get me wrong.  He’s a great guy, but he can only concentrate on one thought at a time.  If that one thought is pleasing my wife, I’m fine with that.  So Mr. Z is Single Track Mind (STM).  So STM is tall, dark and good looking.  Also, he is much younger than Wife; 13 years younger.  I wondered what everyone else in the restaurant was thinking about us.  I clearly was her husband and they were sitting close.

After we paid and were walking out, the waitress called for me.  I had left my credit card at the table.  So I had to take a few extra seconds going back to get it.  STM got to this car first, and let me tell you it was smokin’.  It is interesting to see what people drive.  I didn’t have any idea what he would be driving and we certainly weren’t driving anything but basic transportation.  I could see him driving a sedan or an SUV, maybe with a little flash or a kick ass stereo.  So anyway, when I say it was smokin’, I literally mean smoking.  It was a nineties POS and created its own cloud.  I told Wife that he must have just lit up a few smokes.  :)

Since we took longer to get to our car than STM, we missed a light that he made.  This light seemed to take 5 minutes.  So we didn’t see what happened next.  When we get back to hotel, there is a cop ahead of us in parking lot.  We didn’t think anything of it, but when we come around corner, guess where cop car is - behind STM’s Smokin’ POS.  What did he do?  Just exactly what did he smoke?  Is that the end of our fun for tonight?

Meeting Mr. Z Part 1

It’s Saturday morning.  Wife is sleeping and I’m sure most of you are as I start to write about our adventure of just 36 hours ago.

We got out of the house early.  We were anxious to meet Mr. Z, and our meeting was planned at a restaurant near the hotel at 8.  We thought a couple (but not too many) drinks would be in order.  After that we would go to the hotel and see what happens.  It by no means was a sure thing from our perspective.

So we hurried and got out early.  Before we left we suggested to Mr. Z that we move the meeting up to say 6 if we get there early enough.  He said OK.  Then we get a text that he wouldn’t have his cell phone after 15 minutes.  WTF!  That is the number that we had always used to talked and text to him.  Now, as we are about to meet, he gives us his work number.  The area code doesn’t match and not just a little off.  The online reverse lookup is not working completely, but it does tell us it’s a land line from a thousand miles away.  So this was almost enough to scare us off.  Finally I figure out that his company is using voice over IP and he probably isn’t a thousand miles away.  We end up deciding that he probably is just as he has told us.

We get to the hotel and check in.  It’s a nice upscale, but not overly pretentious hotel chain.  After we settle in to our 2 room suite with a king size bed, we head downstairs for the complementary happy hour.  As we enjoy a couple of drinks each, there is much talk about what might happen, about the hot black guy with a beard near us, and about our upcoming trip.  I barely notice a couple sitting fairly close to us.  She’s got short hair and he has stylish dreadlocks.  I’m much too distracted by the evening’s possibilities to really take much notice of them.  As I go to the bar (it’s a counter actually, but that doesn’t bother me here - maybe that’s because it has a granite surface) the woman smiles at Wife.  When I get back she tells me and I realize the guy is a woman with braids and beads.  Later she also smiles at Wife.  They are so obviously lesbian.  It’s hard to believe I missed it.  Suddenly Wife’s options have increased.  Lol.  While Wife isn’t opposed to a little bi action, they weren’t her type.

We head out to the restaurant …